Agenda item

Local Area Commander, Thames Valley Police

(Superintendent Chris Shead, Slough Local Area Commander is attending the meeting to present on policing issues in Slough and to answer Members’ questions.)

Minutes:

The Chair welcomed to the meeting Superintendent Chris Shead, Slough Local Area Commanderfor the Thames Valley Police, who made a presentation on crime and policing matters in Slough.  He stated that the police’s resources were focused on its identified priorities, namely combatting serious acquisitive crime; tackling violent crime; improving the quality of service; and enhancing confidence in the police.  He was pleased to advise the meeting that, overall, there had been a 13% reduction in crime compared to the same period last year which equated to some 1,200 less victims.  He provided detailed information on various categories of crime, commenting that whilst the crime figures had reduced, the level of crime in Slough was still high as compared with other similar policing areas. 

 

Amongst the highlights in his presentation were the following:-

 

  • The level of burglaries was down but the detection rate was still too low.
  • There was a large drop in vehicle crime over last year.
  • The number of robberies was down some 22%, reflecting the resources focused on this area.
  • There was an increase in assault with less serious injury, both in respect of domestic violence and other assaults.  Alcohol played a large part in many of these crimes.  It was difficult however to make a judgement in respect of domestic violence as to whether the increased figures reflected more crimes being committed or whether more were now being reported and/or better recorded.
  • There was a small decrease in serious violent crime and serious sexual offences.  The levels of criminal damage were similar to last year but the level of hate crimes had increased significantly. 

 

He commented that whilst the overall reduction in crime was to be welcomed, it was still the case that the Thames Valley force suffered from a lack of resources with less officers per head of population and per crime than most similar authorities.  He felt that the public’s confidence in the police was improving but there was still much work to be done. 

 

Members raised the following issues in the subsequent questioning and debate:-

 

  • A Member made reference to the fact that the new Comprehensive Area Assessment would evaluate not only the Council but its partners and the relationship between those partners, including the police.  There had been complaints in the past  of “buck passing” between the two organisations in responding to issues and a comment was sought as to whether the position had now improved.  Superintendent Shead commented that he believed there was a healthy level of challenge between the two organisations and he did not believe there was any buck passing now taking place.  He believed that, whilst there was always room for further improvement, the relationship between the police and the authority was strong and improving. 
  • There was concern at the level of anti-social behaviour in the Borough and a perception amongst the public that not enough was done by the authorities to tackle it.  Superintendent Shead responded that, whilst it was true that the public perception could be ill-judged at times, he agreed that a more joined up approach was required in respect of tackling anti-social behaviour and he believed that good working practices had been established between the police and the authority.  Having said that, further work was needed but he believed that good structures and relationships were now in place.  Reference was also made to the current massive government interest in anti-social behaviour arising particularly because of the recent tragic case of Fiona Pilkington.  Members commented that low level crime of this nature was a real problem as it affected so many people in a neighbourhood. 
  • The Superintendent was asked whether any additional officers had been obtained for Slough as had been hoped by the Chief Constable when she had attended the Committee earlier in the year.  He responded that two additional officers had been obtained for the Slough area. 
  • Reference was made to the current national financial crisis and the likelihood that the police budgets would be cut in the coming years and the Commander was asked to comment on whether he thought this would have a severe impact on the Force.  He commented that there would undoubtedly be a reduction in funding and referred to the fact that savings of some £355,000 had been required in the current year.  This had been achieved through efficiency savings without any reduction in police numbers.  In the future, the police would need to work smarter and more efficiently. 
  • A Member referred to people’s perception of where the police  concentrated their resources and referred for example to high levels of anti-social behaviour in some areas, whilst the police appeared to be utilising resources on speed traps.  Superintendent Shead commented that it was important to get the balance right and he referred to the fact that traffic and speeding were often cited as a problem by local residents.  It was therefore necessary to address the problem, particularly given that people were more likely to be hurt in road accidents than as the victims of violence.  In addition, it was also worth remembering that the traffic police were not within his jurisdiction and he did not make decisions about where to deploy such manpower.
  • A member of the public had submitted a question for the Commander seeking information on the breakdown of people by ethnicity in Slough that were in rehabilitation, in prison on drug offences, or in prison due to gun crime.  The Commander was unable to provide that information at the meeting and suggested that this may be more appropriately addressed to either the Prison Service or the Probation Service.  A second question had also been put by a local resident and the Chair suggested that this be forwarded to Slough’s MP to respond to.
  • Members sought information on how effective the police were in tackling the problem of drugs in Slough.  The Commander commented that the benefits of Operation Chester undertaken some 18 months ago were still being felt with the level of trafficking and arrests still down.  He believed that there had been a significant reduction in drug pushing in the Slough area and this was borne out both by the reduction in serious acquisitive crime, which was often linked to drug users, and a large reduction in the number of kidnappings which again were often drugs related.
  • A Member asked what action the police had taken in respect of the recent martial arts exponent who had visited Slough and had appeared to be suggesting that he could teach people to maim and kill.  The Commander commented that he did not believe that the gentleman in question was teaching anything different from that taught in martial arts classes and did not believe that he was breaking the law in any way.  Moreover, it was believed that he was licensed to train martial arts. 
  • A Member asked what training frontline staff received in child protection awareness and was advised that there were various degrees of training in the force.  All staff were given awareness training on both domestic violence and child abuse.  In addition, some staff underwent a much higher level of training if they were involved with child abuse investigations.
  • In response to a question about time saving initiatives, the Commander stated that the Police were endeavouring to work smarter and to reduce the amount of bureaucracy.  He gave the example of a much reduced level of  paperwork in respect of adult and youth restorative disposal relating to minor offences where a caution was issued and a note made in the officer’s notebook only.  In addition, handheld PDAs were issued to staff on the beat. 
  • Superintendent Shead was asked to comment on the Fiona Pilkington case and whether he felt that the failings in evidence in the Leicestershire force could be replicated in Slough. He responded that whilst he could not comment on what may have gone wrong in that case, he regularly received data about individuals who were repeat victims of anti-social behaviour and that information was used to ensure that neighbourhood teams addressed any such issues flagged up.  Neighbourhood inspectors would be expected to put a plan in place if more than three calls were received from a victim. He had systems in place which he believed were as robust as they needed to be at the present time but he would continue to review and improve them as necessary in the future.
  • A Member asked whether any action was taken in respect of the victimisation of disabled people who were often targeted by anti-social behaviour.  He commented that he believed that such crimes were greatly under-reported and this was an area that needed more work locally.  As an example of this, he did not believe that partnerships with local disability groups were as well established as they could be and he was addressing this. He urged all such organisations to report these crimes to the police. 
  • Clarification was sought of the number of police officers in Slough and whether this was adequate.  Superintendent Shead commented that Slough had 240 officers and there were 4,200 across the whole of the Thames Valley area.  He believed that the force was under-resourced and should be treated the same as a metropolitan area.  Considerable lobbying continued to be undertaken but it was unlikely that there would be a change for the better in the short term.  Accordingly, it was important that he made the best of the available resources. 
  • A Member asked whether there were any Wards in Slough with particular tensions at the present time.  The Commander commented that none were giving great cause for concern at present although there was an emerging problem with anti-social behaviour by groups of youths on Friday and Saturday nights in the Britwell area and the police were monitoring the position.
  • Member asked what challenges the diverse and mobile population of Slough caused for the Police.  The Commander responded that the police endeavoured to work well with all sectors of the Slough community but he accepted that there were particular challenges where there was a highly mobile population, some sectors of which had different modes of behaviour for cultural reasons.  The police needed to be aware of these factors. 
  • The Commander was asked to comment on whether he believed that the increase in the levels of domestic violence was due to better reporting and awareness or whether there was indeed an increase in such crimes.  He stated that it was difficult to be sure about this but that when he had arrived in Slough, he believed that the number of domestic violence crimes being reported was too low.  There was certainly an increase in referrals and convictions but it was too soon to say yet whether this was symptomatic of an increase in the problem.  He should be in a better position to comment in a year’s time.
  • Reference was made to the problem of young offenders who were not in suitable education, employment or training and whether the police  had a role in this.  The Commander commented that it was important that, wherever possible, suitable opportunities were provided for such young people to help break the cycle and that sometimes prison was counter-productive. 
  • A Member asked how the police measured the effectiveness of its strategy to tackle violent extremism.  He responded that evaluation was the key to this with the police needing to evaluate the usefulness of the projects being undertaken.  This was of necessity of long term issue and it was not always easy to find good methods of evaluating success.  However, a programme to support vulnerable individuals was in place to help such individuals from being radicalised.  It was also about building resilience within the various communities to identify potential problems and to work with partners wherever possible. 
  • Reference was made to the problem of prostitution in Chalvey and what action the police were taking.  The Commander commented that this was a key issue in the area with some 16 habitual prostitutes operating in Chalvey.  Unfortunately, the law was quite outdated and difficult to enforce and the police took what action they could and passed the individuals onto other agencies for assistance wherever possible.  Action was also taken against their clients to act as a deterrent but it was accepted that it was a significant issue for the local community and the police would continue to respond.
  • A Member referred to a comment made by the Commander regarding the clearing up of a large number of crimes due to confessions made by arrested offenders and sought further information on how the police could be sure that such “confessions” were genuine given that offenders could expect more lenient treatment if they cooperated with the police.  The Commander commented that offenders confessing to other crimes had a number of benefits both for the police and for  victims and he had rarely come across any examples of offenders admitting to crimes that they had not committed. 
  • A Member referred to a recent police publication concerning the North Slough Neighbourhood Policing Team and asked whether the police constable had now been removed.  The Commander commented that the titles of the various officers had been changed to neighbourhood officers and neighbourhood specialist officers but that they were still police constables and there had simply been a change in terminology.  He undertook to have a look at this issue so as to ensure it did not cause confusion amongst the local community. 
  • In response to a question, the Commander stated that the Force worked very well with its partners in the field of child protection and was involved in the Local Safeguarding Children Board. 

 

On completion of the questioning, the Chair thanked the Commander for his presentation and input.  It was noted that any written questions which had not been responded to at this meeting would be sent to the Commander for him to reply in writing.

 

Resolved  - That the position be noted.